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Patrick McCarthy <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:32:15 -0800
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Friends of the Dickens Forum,

	On frog, Pickwick, and the Kentish dialect from David Parker once 
more, and a smiling reaction from Valerie Lester:         (pjm)

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Stephen Jarvis had told me personally about the nineteenth-century meaning  
of "pickwick," and I do feel this is something worth pursuing.  Cautiously,  
perhaps.  The novel itself entertains readers by introducing the matter of  
Pickwick coaches, and we know that Moses Pickwick, their proprietor, can be  
related to the village of Pickwick outside Bath.  The OED,  moreover, gives no 
example of "pickwick," meaning an instrument for adjusting  the wick of a lamp 
candle, dating from before 1864.  The old  OED, that's to say.  I don't have 
ready access to the new.   But the searching of texts prior to 1836 might well 
yield something, and suggest  a hitherto hidden level of meaning.
But I still can't think of any connection between Boz and frogs.
David Parker

B) Valerie Lester <[log in to unmask]>


	I was delighted to learn from Stephen Jarvis's message that Moses  
was a dialect word for frog in Kent.  Next time I have a cold and  
come across a frog, I will know what to call it.

	Valerie Lester